Expedition mileage

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I'm sure if you go to the sequoia forums, there's plenty of members whose trucks didn't last past 150k.
 

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$80K for a truck that is very likely to take a giant s**t by the time it hits 150k miles isn't a bargain in my book. That's as much as some people in KY paid for a newer house and a couple acres of land. :p Also, the truck costs twice what it did in 2002. And yet the median income in the US in 2002 was $42,409 and today it's $44,225. :x
I see your point. My theory worked since I was in the market for something in the $50k range. Which is still a lot, but much better value compared to other vehicles in this range.
 

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I'm sure if you go to the sequoia forums, there's plenty of members whose trucks didn't last past 150k.
Maybe if the owner didn’t change the oil… ever.. seriously.
The Sequoia Drivetrain is bulletproof.

Do I like my Expy better? Yeah. And it isn’t even a contest. But I would give anything for it to be even half as well made as the Toyota.
 

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The build quality of the 4th gens could be better. I felt my 09 nav was better built than my 18 expy, considering the expy was 10 yrs newer. Hopefully the build quality goes up on the post refresh.
 

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When I was buying new, compared to the Sequoia, the expedition was $10k cheaper with dealer discounts (for a way better level of refinement), saves $500 in gas per year, and had 0% Apr. That totaled to about $20k in direct savings over the Toyota product. When you factor in the interior refinement and the pleasure of having two turbos ;), then the Expedition was a waaay better bargain. I would say at least 30k cheaper over 10 years of ownership. That doesn’t factor maintenance/repair.

I was actually surprised that Ford sold that much of a car so cheaply. Any similar European vehicle with turbos is at least 40k more expensive.

I knew that I will have some hard part failures (and I did haha) over the span of ownership, but at the end the Expedition will still be significantly cheaper.

What are the hard part failures you encountered?
 

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That’s not far off. Unfortunately.

I have driven several, and it does have several good things going for it. You get the satisfying rumble of a V8.
It has VERY comfortable seating, and a very quiet, smooth ride. The second AND third row seats are every bit as roomy and comfortable as my Platinum Expy.
A Platinum trim Sequoia has the adjustable ride height in the back to compensate for heavy loads and towing. Something the Expy does NOT have.
AND, the rear window that can be lowered is pretty cool.

But beyond that, the Sequoia is very outdated.
Traditional key start.
column shifter
Very small touchscreen Nav on dash
technology and infotainment is very outdated.
But, the BluRay rear seat entertainment is at least hard wired to the car audio.. something Ford failed at.
Just out of curiosity, why would anyone want to hardwire the back seat entertainment to the main vehicle audio? I want to hear my music, not the kid's movies as I drive. Rear seat entertainment should be limited to the rear seat passengers and not create a distraction for the driver.
 

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I have 131k on my Max Limited. Turbo rattle, cams were worked on under warranty, and it has developed a coolant leak at a plastic y-fitting going to heater core. I believe the leak is due to improperly securing it during the cam repairs. Other than that, it still runs great!
 

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What are the hard part failures you encountered?
I have grinding, howling, and whining in the front diff. But the dealer say noise is normal! It is pretty loud when the diff gets warm. Of course they park it for several hours before they test drive it, and by then things are cool and quiet.

Now the noise is much worse, so I will try to schedule an appointment with their powertrain specialist and take him for a test drive.
 

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Is the reliability really that bad? So if I’m the type not to want any significant repairs, should I plan to get a new Expedition (or other) by the time the power train runs out?
 

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Is the reliability really that bad? So if I’m the type not to want any significant repairs, should I plan to get a new Expedition (or other) by the time the power train runs out?
No. You are on an Internet forum and since the vast majority of people never once visit one you are not seeing a true sampling set. Quite a few people who do find a forum do it because they have a problem leading to more issues reported as a percentage than actual field numbers.
 
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