Hellwig 7696 is installed on 2024 Expedition

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5280tunage

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I double checked that and even sent them pictures. They said it was installed properly. The bar is substantially stronger than stock, so the stock end links and crappy rubber absorbers don't handle it well. It's the old adage of replace the week link only to create another.

If you notice in the one close up of the end links installed I sent, the mounting position on the bar is pretty parallel with the control arm. If I flip the bar, it will point more upwards and won't be parallel actually causing much worse, I actually did it the wrong way to begin with two years ago. Maybe using the term snapped was the issue, they have never broken into two pieces, but I get the infamous popping sounds. Same as I used to on my straight axle and IFS jeeps. The end links often have week components inside that crack, causing excess play in them which causes the pop. This is exactly what happened to one of the Moogs, I opened it up and found a cracked metal socket the ball fits in.

On my jeeps, one of the first things I always did was upgrade the bars and convert from standard ball and socket end links to billet/spherical style end links, solved everything. I just can't find anything that HD for these.

The stationary ones I've been using from Energy suspension work much better, they just need new bushings about once a year.
 
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Great info here. Thanks for sharing. I’ll be installing Hellwigs front and rears this week.
 

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I did the rear sway bar several months ago and the difference was night and day. I recommend everyone do it. However, I swapped out the front bar and links a few weeks ago and I'm not certain it's an improvement. I used the same setup as the guy on page 3 but my my links were a part 9.8121R so my spacer is 4in instead of 3.5 (It shouldn't make a difference because the bar pivots so all that matters is its position relative to the other end of the bar). I'm getting a lot of bump steer. If I hit a bump with one wheel the steering wheel will bounce left and right a good 10-15 degrees. I also swapped out my ccd shocks at the same time, and most likely messed the alignment up a bit because I didn't realize the lower control arm mounting points were slotted, but that shouldn't make this much of a difference in handling.
 
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If you removed your CCD struts, your alignment is completely jacked. It absolutely needs the be aligned after strut removal.
 
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