Used 12-17 EL Ltd/Plat vs 18 MAX Ltd - what's it worth?

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MrStuff

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Trying to decide whether to buy a 12-17 Expy EL vs an 18 MAX. We are looking primarily at 4WD and Limited/Platinum, but that limits the options considerably when we also control for our budget (want to spend 15-18, but will go to 25ish if worth it). I might be being stubborn on the 4WD as we won't use it that much but I don't really want to spend a car to haul all the people and the things that is then limited in where I'm willing to take it. Our other car is a '14 AWD Odyssey but I don't want that to be the better option if we go off-road, camping, go to snow, etc. We would look at XLTs too but a lot of the ones I find that are in the '17 range have that small screen with lots of buttons and I don't like it.

There's an 18 MAX Ltd 4WD for $25k that fits the parameters with 127k mi. Carfax shows Camshaft replaced/repaired at 31k mi and shows it again at 34k. AC Compressor at 70k. Otherwise nothing much of note, other than a "Transmission Checked" in Dec when it appears the car was traded in. Most of the 18s are a few thousand more, but have fewer miles.

2015 EL Platinum with 93k miles for $21.8. Carfax shows one owner but no records between purchase and 59k miles in 2020, and nothing much since.
2017 EL Platinum with 88k miles for $25.9 but I have to get it shipped. Carfax shows regular maintenance and no major repairs.
2017 EL Limited with 124k miles for $20k. CF shows nothing for first 52k mi, then some maint appts until oil pan drain plug and gasket replaced at 115k with 02 sensor, and then another 02 sensor replacement at 121k.
2012 EL Limited with 167k miles for $11k. A number of battery replacements early in the car life, and some other maintenance items in the CF make me want to stay away, but it's also 10k cheaper.


The 2018 has the most miles of any of these and is the most expensive, so is it worth it? We have 4 kids (8-14yo) and a couple small dogs, will use it probably 6-8k mi/year since I WFH. I like the new tech and the panoramic sunroof looks great but don't know if the $ and mileage is a good tradeoff, esp with expected maintenance in the 5-8yr future. We take a couple 500mi (one-way) trips a year that I would like to mix this car into as well instead of always taking the Ody. This makes me lean newer for the comfort/tech/happiness.
 
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I went and test-drove the 2018 and it's a mess. Fine condition but the transmission is in bad shape. Didn't want to shift out of first, lots of nasty clunking, I didn't even know if we'd make it back to the dealer. Frustrated in them because I asked this directly to the sales guy yesterday (it was a 2hr trip one-way to get there) and he said it was driving fine. He either didn't drive it at all or just flat lied, and this was a used car at a nice Audi dealer so I expected better (silly me). He was apologetic but that doesn't mean much.
 

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Just a note on Carfax reports....They are good general starting point, but not all repair shops report their work to them, so there may have been some work done on the vehicles that is not documented in the report(s).

Best thing would be to put down a small, refundable deposit ($1-3K), with a written order that clearly states that you have 7-10 days to have the vehicle checked out by someone you trust, and if all is well, go back & buy it :D

But if you find out things are not what you expected, take it back, get your refund, and move on to something else !
 

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I just bought a 2012 Exp EL Limited with 120k on the clock from small dealership. This is my first Ford in 25 years. Bought it as a grandkid hauler (ages 6,8,13 &14) so needed bigger vehicle. Pretty happy with it so far (in middle of 2000 mile shakedown trip right now).

Had a few minor things that I noticed but not deal killer. I immediately changed coil packs and spark plugs with FoMoCo parts (had the tranny shudder at low rpm/light acceleration, which indicated a weak/failing coil pack), oil change, changed rear diff fluid, wiper blades all around, K&N lifetime air filter, new brake pads and rotors as well as brake fluid flush (son in law installed for me and did the flush), and I checked the tranny fluid (was full and clean). Battery is under a year old. Has good set of Michelin tires on it.

Vehicle doesn't leak any fluids... Looks new under the hood and under the vehicle. It's detailed now so rubbed most of the light scuffs and scratches off of paint finish.and put a coat of wax on it. Leather is in great shape, had 2nd row Captains chairs and was a non-smoker vehicle (probably had kids in it... Found some candy wrappers under the 3rd row seats).

I'm happy with the purchase. My grandkids love riding in it. Dual a/c blows cold and when the time comes it will tow up to 9200 lbs, almost a ton more than my older dodge pickup.

We will do 2-4 trips a year in it. I priced it against renting a minivan ($900/week) for trips over next 5 years. Just couldn't stomach new one, nor a newer used on with the turbo engine that may or may not have been taken care of.

Good luck!
 
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