BrandonH13
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So we just bought a 2005 expedition with the 5.4 in it. We have had it about a month and a half...second vehicle so its rarely driven. Before we bought it the dealership had the timing chains, guides, arms, cam sensors replaced because it was making a noise.
Well about 2 weeks ago my wife says it died on her when she was backing up. Restarted it just fine and didn't have a problem with it. Then I drive it to work (which is 90% highway) When I start to stop at a light it just dies, shift into neutral and restart it....now its making a loud clacking sound and have to keep some gas on it so the rpms stay up. Check engine light now comes on, so I get it to work and check the codes...
P0345 - camshaft position sensor bank a circuit, bank 2
P0340 - camshaft position sensor circuit malfunction
So in my mind I am thinking its the timing stuff they just did or its the cam phasers. It will be fine when its cold and after it warms up is when you hear the clacking and the truck wanting to die. We test drove a F150 that did the same exact thing and since we were getting the 5.4 I tried to research before hand about the bad things.
So I call the dealership we just bought it from and they said it was serviced at this place and it has a 12 month 12,000 mile warranty for the timing parts. So I call the place and after about 2 weeks FINALLY get someone to call me back. We take it there and tell them to check whatever they need under their warranty but to call before they do anything else. They are like oh its probably just the connections so we will lube them up and see what happens. Well after a couple days I call and get "well it wasn't that so we are tearing into the engine to see if its the timing stuff we did". Couple days later again I call and get "well the tensioners were bad and thats the only thing we didn't replace" this is a thursday so the owner which I have been talking to tells me he wants to drive it 20-30 miles to make sure the noise isnt going to come back. Well AGAIN a couple days later I call on a tuesday for him to tell me he has taken it to the local ford shop because it still has the noise. Well he ends up calling me friday afternoon to say that ford said "its the oil pump so you need a new engine"
Sorry for the story, but my question is would the oil pump just go out like that and have the syptoms of the cam phaser or do you think it sounds like cam phasers? I never remember the oil pressure dropping or the dummy light coming on the dash, which I would think would happen if it was the oil pump.
ANY help would be great since its passed the 30 days and I really dont want to fork over another $5K for a new engine if I dont have to
Well about 2 weeks ago my wife says it died on her when she was backing up. Restarted it just fine and didn't have a problem with it. Then I drive it to work (which is 90% highway) When I start to stop at a light it just dies, shift into neutral and restart it....now its making a loud clacking sound and have to keep some gas on it so the rpms stay up. Check engine light now comes on, so I get it to work and check the codes...
P0345 - camshaft position sensor bank a circuit, bank 2
P0340 - camshaft position sensor circuit malfunction
So in my mind I am thinking its the timing stuff they just did or its the cam phasers. It will be fine when its cold and after it warms up is when you hear the clacking and the truck wanting to die. We test drove a F150 that did the same exact thing and since we were getting the 5.4 I tried to research before hand about the bad things.
So I call the dealership we just bought it from and they said it was serviced at this place and it has a 12 month 12,000 mile warranty for the timing parts. So I call the place and after about 2 weeks FINALLY get someone to call me back. We take it there and tell them to check whatever they need under their warranty but to call before they do anything else. They are like oh its probably just the connections so we will lube them up and see what happens. Well after a couple days I call and get "well it wasn't that so we are tearing into the engine to see if its the timing stuff we did". Couple days later again I call and get "well the tensioners were bad and thats the only thing we didn't replace" this is a thursday so the owner which I have been talking to tells me he wants to drive it 20-30 miles to make sure the noise isnt going to come back. Well AGAIN a couple days later I call on a tuesday for him to tell me he has taken it to the local ford shop because it still has the noise. Well he ends up calling me friday afternoon to say that ford said "its the oil pump so you need a new engine"
Sorry for the story, but my question is would the oil pump just go out like that and have the syptoms of the cam phaser or do you think it sounds like cam phasers? I never remember the oil pressure dropping or the dummy light coming on the dash, which I would think would happen if it was the oil pump.
ANY help would be great since its passed the 30 days and I really dont want to fork over another $5K for a new engine if I dont have to